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Reason for Short Luteal Phase?

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Heather678 Posted: Mon, Feb 13 2017 9:55 PM

I'm helping my friend learn how to chart, and it's looking like she has a short (like 6 day) Luteal Phase. She described her cycle to me last cycle and from what she described with cervical fluid, I guessed she O'd a few days "late" and had a short LP. This last cycle she was able to chart and it appears that she does have a 6 day LP. She used OPKs and temped, though her temps need to be more consistent, which she has been doing better at this cycle. 

 

Is low progesterone the reason for a short LP or are there other factors too? I am trying to encourage her to get several detailed charts completed so she will have as much data as she can to bring to a Dr some day. She has a 2 year old daughter and has been TTC for a bit now, but has been doing the "bd until day 14" strategy, but because she O's "late", obviously that's not gonna work. 

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SoccerGirl replied on Tue, Feb 14 2017 12:49 PM

Is she breastfeeding still, recently weaned or coming off BCP?  Those are few things that come to my mind.  That sounds good to get several detailed charts to verify what is going on.  

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Heather678 replied on Tue, Feb 14 2017 3:06 PM

I asked her the same things. Not breastfeeding and she wasn't on BCP since she had her daughter (I'm not sure if she was on it before but I doubt it matters).

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tmonee replied on Tue, Feb 14 2017 6:15 PM

Does her O seem to match up with the OPK? How late is late? Could you share a shot of her chart(s) with us?

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Heather678 replied on Tue, Feb 14 2017 6:26 PM

Ok, so you have to take the temps with a grain of salt because she was not great at temping consistently at the same time with the right amount of sleep. She chose a time that seemed like a good one but was often woken earlier.

Her temps aren't high, I am pretty sure she O'd right before that big jump (with a fallback), not where it's marked. She got her EWCF and +(albeit weakish +) OPK after the marked O on her chart (plus it doesn't follow the 6 temp rule, even though her temps are not 100% accurate). 

 

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dj rayne replied on Fri, Feb 17 2017 8:02 AM

I'd say O is most likely second day of + OPK. That gives an 8 day LP.

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dj rayne replied on Fri, Feb 17 2017 8:09 AM

Issues in the LP 99% of the time originate in the FP. The amount of progesterone produced is a direct result of the "health" of the conversion of the follie to a corpus luteum. Without a good strong ovulation and all that goes with it you won't have a strong CL producing adequate progesterone to support a long LP and healthy lining development. I personally have felt for a long time that with all of the exposure to xenoestrogens, other toxic environmental exposures, synthetic hormones and even phytoestrogens in supplements many women are facing IF issues because their cycles can't proceed in the manner they should.

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